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LicensedLuny · Jun 06, 2010, 12:06 AM // 00:06

Do you guys think there is still sufficient demand to say inherent max mods (like 15^50, +5, matched 20/20 staff) make an item significantly more valuable than its inscribable counterpart?

I know there are special cases like skins which do not drop with inscription slots at all, inherent mods that have no inscription counterpart, and certain popular skins which are especially rare to find with inherent mods. I'm not asking about those - it's more of a general question.

Years ago, there seemed little doubt that the overall market put a premium on "good" inherent mods, but I'm wondering if that still holds true. Do you think there are still enough oldschool fans buying gear to support claims that "reasonable fair market value" of an item is higher if it has a desirable inherent mod(s) instead of an inscription slot?

Is it reasonable to tell a guy asking for a PC on, say, an r10 inherent 15^50 Long Sword, that he can easily expect to get more than an inscribable r10 Long Sword and a 15^50 inscription?

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In my experience ...

That doesn't often hold true anymore for most martial weapons with r9+
Staffs with inherent matched 20/20 mods seem like they're probably generally somewhat more valuable than the otherwise identical inscribable version with a 20HCT inscription. It seems like inherent 20/10 staffs may actually be worth the same or less than otherwise identical inscribable staffs.
Shields with desirable dual inherent mods only seem to be reasonably more valuable at market than an inscribable counterpart for specific skins, so I'm not sure if it's fair to say it's a general trend.
Wands and foci with desirable dual mods are probably at least somewhat more valuable than inscribable versions. Yet, like shields, it may be as much a function of skin as it is the lack of Inscription: in the info tag.

So what do you guys think? Is there still enough demand for "oldschool" out there to keep the fair market values up?

Thanks in advance for sharing your ideas and opinions!

Cheers,
Luny

PowerRAV · Jun 06, 2010, 05:47 AM // 05:47

Sadly no =\ I think it takes time to find those collectors who want oldschool over inscrib, and even if you find one chances are they aren't going to pay as much unless they really really want it. Been trying to sell some of my non-inscrib stuff for a long while now, even at dirt cheap prices. =\

Yawgmoth · Jun 06, 2010, 02:08 PM // 14:08

If it's about the low end market then the current state of GW economy makes it hard to find a buyer at all, so a seller should be happy that he sells the item at all, not about getting a premium for nice oldschoolness of the item, although this still occassionally happens.

In the last couple years an inherent 15^50 was worth more simply because there was some additional demand for those weapons, more players perceived additional value in them and preferred them while average player paid the same for both kinds. Right now the only remaining oldschool loving players are rich enough that they're only interested in buying high-end valuable rarities where you obviously still see significantly higher prices for oldschool versions.

Pleikki · Jun 06, 2010, 02:24 PM // 14:24

Depends on skin and inher rly. For common skins.. No

ladylady · Jun 07, 2010, 03:37 PM // 15:37

Short answer - no.

Personally I have a lot of experience handling 20/20 non-inscribable staffs. The reason for the premium in many staffs I've bought and sold comes NOT from the fact it's "old-school" but that inscribable versions of the same requirement don't exist for the skin. For example, while inscribable Zodiac Staffs exist, they only drop in primary attributes. If you wanted a 20/20 Zodiac Staff with Fire Magic requirement, your only option would be to purchase an old-school one for a premium. Either that or you could settle with a different skin (Inscribable Fire Staff) or settle with different stats (Inscribable Zodiac Staff req 10 Energy Storage). So you're definitely right that these 20/20s are a different case. But I already wrote this paragraph before I saw it in your post LOL. So it's staying up.

After thinking about this topic, I personally don't see just being "old-school" as a driver for the value of an item. More important criteria are skin, stats, and requirement. Being "old-school" is just icing on the cake after those other more important value-drivers. How I see it is kind of like how slapping an "old-school" 10/10 Sundering on an r8 15^50 longsword would increase its value. But slapping it on an r11 15% stance gladius would be stupid. Icing on the cake. Icing on junk is no good!

Being "old-school" just makes pretty items prettier. Something like an r10 Longsword is pretty common so inscribable or not it should be around the same value. On the other hand a r9 15^50 "old-school" Shinobi Blade would have quite a premium over the inscribable version. Same goes with, for example, a 20/20 r9 Divine Favor Celestial Staff.

Hope this helps!

Lady Sapphire

Captain Krompdown · Jun 07, 2010, 04:39 PM // 16:39

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ladylady · Jun 07, 2010, 06:37 PM // 18:37

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galbat0rixx · Jun 07, 2010, 07:25 PM // 19:25

Well it does differ a bit. The thing is low end items can have such crazy price variations nowadays cuz buyers are often so hard to find. In terms of weapons (discluding shields+staffs) most weapons with an inscribable version are cheaper in oldschool. This especially affects the "high-end-low-end" weapons, such as fellblades and zodiac swords and zodiac bows. I suppose this is probably because such mediocre items aren't really prestigious or rare enough to capture many collectors, and why would a non-collector want to pay more for an item which is techinically inferior as it cannot be so versatile in its mods?

That said, shields and staffs generally inspire greater prices if they are oldschool, firstly because of the two random and completely unchangeable mods which makes them rare to find with two decent mods, but also because they are more "collectable" (due to the range of mods, some of which are impossible to come across in isncribable versions) and also a big factor is that as they are so rare it's something for all those people with stacks of globs sitting around in their storage to spend there spare cash on. Of course as is mentioned above, items which do not drop in non-inscr versions have their prices drastically dragged up.

Hope this kinda helps, I'm not an expert but......yeah.